Pirates struggle cracking Denuvo “Anti-Tampering” Solution for Battlefield Hardline

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A description as to what Denuvo really is, would be an alternate form of “DRM” (Digital Restrictions Management) to that of Steam, Uplay or Origin. It can also be added to any game using those services as an extra safety measure as well.

Here’s what the company has to say about it themselves.

There’s a few more sections on the website but here are the sections that are relevant to this discussion – Media QC, I assume QC means Quality Control.

Media QC

“Usually the saying goes “quality not quantity.” But with Denuvo Media QC, we give you both. Our talented and experienced quality control team will carefully check your title’s menus, audio/video content, subtitles, disc functions, and more with an attention to detail unparalleled on the market. And we’ll test for any playability and compatibility issues across an enormous and ever-growing stable of DVD, BD, and 3D players. Get quality and quantity with Denuvo Media QC.” – Denuvo

Now if we go to the Games tab,

And counting. That’s how long one of the latest Denuvo-protected games from EA (FIFA 15) has gone without being cracked. That’s simply unprecedented and it’s a testament to one of Denuvo’s core principles: always keep innovating. Our latest innovation, Denuvo Anti-Tamper, allows EA to reap the benefits of stamping out all piracy attempts in the crucial first weeks of a title’s release. We’d love to do the same for you.

Denuvo Anti-tamper and SecuROM can be ordered through our close partnership with Sony DADC. Denuvo

Before I talk about the companies mistake in this statement, secuROM was a horrid form of DRM because it caused some legitimate users to be unable to access their title when reinstalling the operating system or you had to sign into something each time and if you hadn’t registered the product then you couldn’t access it without contacting support or cracking the game to remove it on a legitimate copy, which sort of defeats the purpose of actually owning the copy in the first place.

FIFA 15's attention to detail is unmatched.
FIFA 15’s attention to detail is unmatched.

Anyway this is quite a surprising claim because above this it states 185 days which would mean that the game they are speaking of, Fifa 15, hasn’t been cracked in over 184 days. When that statement is completely untrue, a simple Google search reveals that Fifa 15, which used Denuvo, was indeed cracked by a scene group called 3DM on the 3rd of March 2015, this year.

So even with the earliest release for that title being on the 23rd of September 2014, the days in-between would only give us 182 days up to the 23rd of March 2015, if we calculate this correctly then it would be 182 – 20 = 162 days (20 is calculated by taking the 3rd of March from the 23rd of March or 23 – 3 = 20).

Now the total time isn’t really an issue but an oversight of the truth, but 162 days regardless is quite the achievement for a video game to go uncracked whilst using the Denuvo encryption, this is a somewhat good sign. Fifa 15 is by far the longest video game to date (unless there’s something else I am not thinking of) to withhold being cracked.

A previous game that also used Denuvo was Dragon Age Inquisition which came out on the 18th of November 2014 and was cracked on the 14th of December 2014 which took the scene group, 3DM once again, 26 days after launch to crack the Denuvo encryption. Although the time it takes to crack a game using this Encryption has decreased, it does seem to be an acceptable form of encryption for a while.

Regardless as to how you see piracy if it wasn’t for the pirates then we wouldn’t have seen that Denuvo only works for as long as a scene group takes to work out how to crack it, wouldn’t the next step to stop piracy be allowing all games to use this technology? Some have reported that the Denuvo form of DRM (that’s what it is) causes games to have performance issues as a result? Is this true, nor EA or Denuvo have made a statement as of writing this article.

Battlefield Hardline released on March 17th 2015 as of right now has not yet been cracked by any scene group, at the end of the day Denuvo seems to be an acceptable form of encryption but how long before they make it even harder to crack.. will they? Who knows. If we look at the time taken to crack previous Denuvo titles then it could take anywhere from 26 days to 162 days to crack.

All this copyright and pirating talk has me worried about the future of disc based media though, seeing as, recently I purchased a Blu ray drive for my PC thinking oh I can watch my Blu Ray movies on my PC, but nope you need to extract the movie file from the disc and convert the file before you can play it (not sure why I can’t just put it in and play it with either Windows Media Player or VLC player) or use the included Power DVD… even then I still cant use my mouse to navigate the menu unless I use the updated version and use the theatre mode?

I mean has this stuff gone to far?  Just let me play the damn thing if I paid for a legitimate version.

Editor’s Note: Pirates are still struggling to crack Denuvo’s tech today. Is game piracy dead as we know it?

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Trevor Kincaid

If I read correctly Denuvo was recently cracked. King no more. 🙁

sagnik Titanz

FUCK DENUVO…IT WILL ALSO DECREASE PERFORMANCE CAUSE IT HAS API OVERHEAD

sagnik Titanz

SCREW DENUVO…IT WILL ALSO DECREASE PERFORMANCE CAUSE IT HAS API OVERHEAD

Guest

i dobrze niech padnie te denuvo drm całkowicie bedą mieli następną strate pieniężną na kupno zabezpieczenia które wreszcie padnie oby tak się stało jak najpredzej ale i tak widac że lamane jest bo gram w gry z denuvo bo cena 60zł to jeszcze kupil bym gre ale po wyżej 60 to wole pobrać gre jak dac za nią aż 200zł

Lee Ward

do you know why fifa isn’t cracked? Because its a crap game. MGS and MM were both crached in <3 weeks. Just cause 3 has lasted for roughly 30 days now.

Lee Ward

do you know why fifa isn’t cracked? Because its a crap game. MGS and MM were both crached in <3 weeks. Just cause 3 has lasted for roughly 30 days now.

Guest

Statement incorrect. The longest lasting uncracked game was a Splinter Cell series game.

SKWRLD

Statement incorrect. The longest lasting uncracked game was a Splinter Cell series game.

Rei Camões

185 days to crack a videogame… oh well… Denuvo your dead on a simple way… you didn´t force the hackers to unlock the game. Simple. They won! So those 7 games are already cracked less FIFA 16.
Soon or later Denuvo will become a joke as DRM.
185 days to wait for a proper released with all bugs fixed by your stupid incompetence. That’s the reason they release the game to late. If we saw it, it’s better wait one year to have all updated, and get cracked already. YOU ALL FAIL!

Rei Camões

185 days to crack a videogame… oh well… Denuvo your dead on a simple way… you didn´t force the hackers to unlock the game. Simple. They won! So those 7 games are already cracked less FIFA 16.
Soon or later Denuvo will become a joke as DRM.
185 days to wait for a proper released with all bugs fixed by your stupid incompetence. That’s the reason they release the game to late. If we saw it, it’s better wait one year to have all updated, and get cracked already. YOU ALL FAIL!

Guest

Denuvo is just useless thing .. mad max and metal solid gear FP were cracked within 1-2 weeks.I can wait… All thing about cracking is that games are too expensive. $60 or even more for game? is it a joke?.. GAMES WILL BE CRACKED AND CRACKED AND THERE WILL BE A LOT PEOPLE WHO WILL JOIN… DENUVO WILL BURN.. COMPANIES ARE WEAK AGAINST MILLIONS OF PEOPLE..STARTING PRICE OF GAMES SHOULD BE $10 .. people are like virus if you want kill them you should kill your self too…

Brett Madigan

…live in AUS that $60USD = closer to $84AUD. Which is more than what most retail PC games cost, clearly not including EB Games in that statement 🙂

You have to remember that AAA games cost millions upon millions to create, or at least that’s what these companies would want you to believe. It comes down to whatever amount of money they used… they still need to regain that and still break even or make a profit on the title. So it’s not that game prices are to high, it’s the quality of games that needs to change.

Mad Max Cracked

Denuvo is just useless thing .. mad max and metal solid gear FP were cracked within 1-2 weeks.I can wait… All thing about cracking is that games are too expensive. $60 or even more for game? is it a joke?.. GAMES WILL BE CRACKED AND CRACKED AND THERE WILL BE A LOT PEOPLE WHO WILL JOIN… DENUVO WILL BURN.. COMPANIES ARE WEAK AGAINST MILLIONS OF PEOPLE..STARTING PRICE OF GAMES SHOULD BE $10 .. people are like virus if you want kill them you should kill your self too…

Brett Madigan

…live in AUS that $60USD = closer to $84AUD. Which is more than what most retail PC games cost, clearly not including EB Games in that statement 🙂

You have to remember that AAA games cost millions upon millions to create, or at least that’s what these companies would want you to believe. It comes down to whatever amount of money they used… they still need to regain that and still break even or make a profit on the title. So it’s not that game prices are to high, it’s the quality of games that needs to change.

Drew

It seems that Battlefield: Hardline was cracked on the 13th of August, which would mean it took them around 150 days to crack this Denuvo game. Its weird that it took almost 160 days for Fifa and then only around a month for Dragon Age Inquisition. So they must be updating Denuvo for each game or periodically, or maybe the scene group just didn’t put as much time into cracking Battlefield: Hardline as they did for Dragon Age Inquisition.

Brett Madigan

It is weird but you have to remember that the scene didn’t like Battlefield singleplayer thus their was little to no enthused people that would actually bother cracking it.

Drew

It seems that Battlefield: Hardline was cracked on the 13th of August, which would mean it took them around 150 days to crack this Denuvo game. Its weird that it took almost 160 days for Fifa and then only around a month for Dragon Age Inquisition. So they must be updating Denuvo for each game or periodically, or maybe the scene group just didn’t put as much time into cracking Battlefield: Hardline as they did for Dragon Age Inquisition.

Brett Madigan

It is weird but you have to remember that the scene didn’t like Battlefield singleplayer thus their was little to no enthused people that would actually bother cracking it.

MClement

Denuvo was cracked !
http://rarbg.to/torrent/qpdlaiz
Crackers: 5000 Game Editors: 0

MClement

Denuvo was cracked !
http://rarbg.to/torrent/qpdlaiz
Crackers: 5000 Game Editors: 0

Sahron Bone

CPY cracked all DENUVO games . Recent one was today with Battlefield Hardline , the others are Lords Of the Fallen and Batman Arkham Knight .

Bill Whiner

It was only a matter of time , it just wasn`t the group i figured would do it . I guess groups like reloaded flt and skidrow couldn`t handle the heat . Sony i got two words for you – mwa·ha·ha·ha

Guest

you guys sound like buttheart pirates who can finally play the games for free

Sahron Bone

CPY cracked all DENUVO games . Recent one was today with Battlefield Hardline , the others are Lords Of the Fallen and Batman Arkham Knight .

Bill Whiner

It was only a matter of time , it just wasn`t the group i figured would do it . I guess groups like reloaded flt and skidrow couldn`t handle the heat . Sony i got two words for you – mwa·ha·ha·ha

Matt Gibs

you guys sound like buttheart pirates who can finally play the games for free

Samarjit Singh

I always play the game first then buy it. i skipped on battfield 3 cz it was plagued with glitches and not too much fun either but even though i had to play GTA 5 at DX10 I still bought it at premium as i just loved it. Piracy as you call it helps me to decide where to put my money just like a test drive before booking a car. either they start releasing DEMO or dont try to harden you digital media shit.

Brett Madigan

I agree, developers need to provide demos like they used to. Maybe that is a safe alternative to all this crazy DRM nonesense, I remember playing demos on PS3 more rather than on PC because by around 2009-2010 demos were not really a thing anymore. So it would be nice to see them again for sure.

The reasoning behind the lack of demos could be due to forcing people to experience the game themselves, by that I mean play it at a friends, watch gameplay online or straight up buy it. Now I don’t have a problem with this IF there was a trial period allowed for PC games. For console games you are allowed to return the game for a refund at specific retailers if you simply don’t like it. One thing I would like to mention is that for retail games the publishers/developers have already received money from transaction that was either by the retailer personally or by a distributor…

Guest

On Origin and Steam there are refund systems…

Brett Madigan

Still not a demo though, they still get your money for a small period of time.

Samarjit Singh

I always play the game first then buy it. i skipped on battfield 3 cz it was plagued with glitches and not too much fun either but even though i had to play GTA 5 at DX10 I still bought it at premium as i just loved it. Piracy as you call it helps me to decide where to put my money just like a test drive before booking a car. either they start releasing DEMO or dont try to harden you digital media shit.

Brett Madigan

I agree, developers need to provide demos like they used to. Maybe that is a safe alternative to all this crazy DRM nonesense, I remember playing demos on PS3 more rather than on PC because by around 2009-2010 demos were not really a thing anymore. So it would be nice to see them again for sure.

The reasoning behind the lack of demos could be due to forcing people to experience the game themselves, by that I mean play it at a friends, watch gameplay online or straight up buy it. Now I don’t have a problem with this IF there was a trial period allowed for PC games. For console games you are allowed to return the game for a refund at specific retailers if you simply don’t like it. One thing I would like to mention is that for retail games the publishers/developers have already received money from transaction that was either by the retailer personally or by a distributor…

Schmandus Longus

On Origin and Steam there are refund systems…

Brett Madigan

Still not a demo though, they still get your money for a small period of time.

Dimitrio Duca

Do these people realise that by using such powerful software protection as Denuvo they are drastically effecting the computer hardware market due to the fact that if people are not prepared to buy a game just for a few hours single player then there remains very little scope to regularly upgrade to more powerful gaming machines. I think that hardware and software providers should jointly seriously tackle this issue unless they are prepared to suffer serious economical problems.

Brett Madigan

Umm games haven’t been improving that much, visually at least, over the past 4 years. If you compare Crysis 1 or Crysis 2 to current games or previous games like Wolfenstein The New Order or even something like The Witcher 3. These games may be somewhat visually impressive from a distance but on PC seeing as we sit closer any PC gamer can easily determine the “real” quality as being well not that great (surely that will annoy some people but meh it’s true).

Wait so you want a hardware “anti-piracy” solution… umm that would make the problem worse and a lot easier to crack (it may take time) but based on the fact you can block internet communication with anything on PC and this idea would be tied to driver updates. No body likes mandatory updates PC is not a console… there would be way to much backlash.

Dimitrio Duca

I normally upgrade my hardware at two years. intervals. However what I meant was that software and hardware companies should come together in an effort to make their products more affordable to their customers. That way they would eliminate the need for piracy without having to resort to such drastic measures as Denuvo which probably, besides raising the cost of the software, it has also been reported that it leaves much to be desired in the performance of a game.

Brett Madigan

Not sure how hardware companies fit into your argument, piracy is largely due to people wanting to try before they buy or not being able to afford it so in the case of cost I agree. As to the rest I have not idea what you are on about.

Dimitrio Duca

Hardware and software companies share a common interest, i.e. to market their products at a profit. The higher the profits the more one expects them to improve their products in such a way that better quality software will be more demanding on hardware performance. So if hardware and software companies could make software and hardware products more affordable for their clients through joint cooperation and burden sharing, they stand to benefit from an expectedly lower piracy rate and an ever increasing demand for new hardware products.

Brett Madigan

I don’t understand how hardware companies are related to the topic at hand… visually games haven’t really changed much over the course of 2 years so personally it wouldn’t matter. We currently have developers/publishers working with companies like Nvidia to bring in new buyers of video cards… whilst misleading the public on performance for the current deal “Batman Arkham Knight”.

So I don’t believe it would make a difference at all. If games were a single encrypted file would that make games harder to crack? Anyway back on point, I believe people pirating exists today at a inclining rate due to the lack of demos and “try before you buy” solutions. Sure places like Steam provide a refund policy now but that’s still not going to stop piracy.

Maybe you can’t stop piracy? Also when you have a Government like mine (Australian) who think that blocking pirating websites is the way to stop pirating… well if that is their way of thinking then we are all buggered in terms of finding an approachable solution 🙁

Justin Zerbel

Witcher 3 Graphics are kinda ugly. The grass looks terrible, The shadows are not that great, THe lighting is terrible. Even games from a year or two ago look better, The only thing that looks decent enough is the faces but that is about it. And the whole Denuvo thing, WEll Denuvo is responsible for SSD’s going bad, Denuvo was a terrible idea even for legitimate users who buy their games are getting screwed with terrible performance and odd Hard Drive usage with Denuvo protected games

Brett Madigan

At least someone agrees with me in terms of The Witcher 3, the Steam forums are plagued with people trying to defend it after a while I gave up trying to prove the “performance improvements or stability improvements” had no effect on my machine.

As for Denuvo ruining SSD’s, well I guess I’ll stay away from installing Origin games on my SSD 🙂

Dimitrio Duca

At least the majority of European countries have so far opted not to address Internet piracy in the same way as the Australian Government; which lets face it, although one can appreciate the end objective, the means adopted for achieving it are nothing less than an archaic Machiavellian approach to the problem while offering no constructive contribution in resolving the real issues.

However piracy apart, in an ideal situation one would expect hardware companies producing ever more technologically efficient hardware to match increasingly more demanding software; hence the need for mutual cooperation and burden sharing in marketing their products and perhaps limiting the issue of piracy without the requirement of using such programs as Denuvo .

Justin Zerbel

Lol besides that SSD’s are expensive I myself do not own one and don’t plan to. And witcher 3 is a good game but the graphics are Garbage, They were severely cut short because of Consoles, And CD Red continuously lied and said their would be no damn downgrade. I can only play maybe 20 minutes at a time. As everytime i look at the folliage i want to scream this is not next gen, Next gen is pure Grass That is Flippin green not brown

Justin Zerbel

Back in the day in the 90’s their was a thing called demos essentially you can plan maybe 20 percent of the game or less. And that would be the deciding factors on buying their game. Now days people download games illegally and most of the time they end up buying the games. As now days we do not get demos for pc anymore. So we illegally download them and then buy them if we feel they are good. I don’t really condone piracy but. Trying out games before buying them has been apart of games for years. Just most companies don’t release demos for the pc

Brett Madigan

…or blurry, what about the rubber trees though 🙂 anyway. Yeah I don’t know I just didn’t see any performance improvements on my rig when they were stated in the patch notes so… no praise from me.

Brett Madigan

I feel like your overall assumption of all PC gamers was a bit harsh but yeah I see what you mean, demos would be nice. Some indies have them now but zero AAA devs do?

Brett Madigan

I wouldn’t say 20% but yeah it was a decent chunk 🙂

Brett Madigan

Performance is a little wonky as well mind you I did like the game but it too was quite riddled with plot holes and amongst other things… (my opinion)

Brett Madigan

Well some ISP’s in the UK have blocked most torrent sites so I’d have to disagree with that statement.

Dimitrio Duca

Do these people realise that by using such powerful software protection as Denuvo they are drastically effecting the computer hardware market due to the fact that if people are not prepared to buy a game just for a few hours single player then there remains very little scope to regularly upgrade to more powerful gaming machines. I think that hardware and software providers should jointly seriously tackle this issue unless they are prepared to suffer serious economical problems.

Brett Madigan

Umm games haven’t been improving that much, visually at least, over the past 4 years. If you compare Crysis 1 or Crysis 2 to current games or previous games like Wolfenstein The New Order or even something like The Witcher 3. These games may be somewhat visually impressive from a distance but on PC seeing as we sit closer any PC gamer can easily determine the “real” quality as being well not that great (surely that will annoy some people but meh it’s true).

Wait so you want a hardware “anti-piracy” solution… umm that would make the problem worse and a lot easier to crack (it may take time) but based on the fact you can block internet communication with anything on PC and this idea would be tied to driver updates. No body likes mandatory updates PC is not a console… there would be way to much backlash.

Dimitrio Duca

I normally upgrade my hardware at two years. intervals. However what I meant was that software and hardware companies should come together in an effort to make their products more affordable to their customers. That way they would eliminate the need for piracy without having to resort to such drastic measures as Denuvo which probably, besides raising the cost of the software, it has also been reported that it leaves much to be desired in the performance of a game.

Brett Madigan

Not sure how hardware companies fit into your argument, piracy is largely due to people wanting to try before they buy or not being able to afford it so in the case of cost I agree. As to the rest I have not idea what you are on about.

Dimitrio Duca

Hardware and software companies share a common interest, i.e. to market their products at a profit. The higher the profits the more one expects them to improve their products in such a way that better quality software will be more demanding on hardware performance. So if hardware and software companies could make software and hardware products more affordable for their clients through joint cooperation and burden sharing, they stand to benefit from an expectedly lower piracy rate and an ever increasing demand for new hardware products.

Brett Madigan

I don’t understand how hardware companies are related to the topic at hand… visually games haven’t really changed much over the course of 2 years so personally it wouldn’t matter. We currently have developers/publishers working with companies like Nvidia to bring in new buyers of video cards… whilst misleading the public on performance for the current deal “Batman Arkham Knight”.

So I don’t believe it would make a difference at all. If games were a single encrypted file would that make games harder to crack? Anyway back on point, I believe people pirating exists today at a inclining rate due to the lack of demos and “try before you buy” solutions. Sure places like Steam provide a refund policy now but that’s still not going to stop piracy.

Maybe you can’t stop piracy? Also when you have a Government like mine (Australian) who think that blocking pirating websites is the way to stop pirating… well if that is their way of thinking then we are all buggered in terms of finding an approachable solution 🙁

Dimitrio Duca

At least the majority of European countries have so far opted not to address Internet piracy in the same way as the Australian Government; which lets face it, although one can appreciate the end objective, the means adopted for achieving it are nothing less than an archaic Machiavellian approach to the problem while offering no constructive contribution in resolving the real issues.

However piracy apart, in an ideal situation one would expect hardware companies producing ever more technologically efficient hardware to match increasingly more demanding software; hence the need for mutual cooperation and burden sharing in marketing their products and perhaps limiting the issue of piracy without the requirement of using such programs as Denuvo .

Brett Madigan

Well some ISP’s in the UK have blocked most torrent sites so I’d have to disagree with that statement.

Justin Zerbel

Back in the day in the 90’s their was a thing called demos essentially you can plan maybe 20 percent of the game or less. And that would be the deciding factors on buying their game. Now days people download games illegally and most of the time they end up buying the games. As now days we do not get demos for pc anymore. So we illegally download them and then buy them if we feel they are good. I don’t really condone piracy but. Trying out games before buying them has been apart of games for years. Just most companies don’t release demos for the pc

Brett Madigan

I feel like your overall assumption of all PC gamers was a bit harsh but yeah I see what you mean, demos would be nice. Some indies have them now but zero AAA devs do?

Brett Madigan

I wouldn’t say 20% but yeah it was a decent chunk 🙂

Justin Zerbel

Witcher 3 Graphics are kinda ugly. The grass looks terrible, The shadows are not that great, THe lighting is terrible. Even games from a year or two ago look better, The only thing that looks decent enough is the faces but that is about it. And the whole Denuvo thing, WEll Denuvo is responsible for SSD’s going bad, Denuvo was a terrible idea even for legitimate users who buy their games are getting screwed with terrible performance and odd Hard Drive usage with Denuvo protected games

Brett Madigan

At least someone agrees with me in terms of The Witcher 3, the Steam forums are plagued with people trying to defend it after a while I gave up trying to prove the “performance improvements or stability improvements” had no effect on my machine.

As for Denuvo ruining SSD’s, well I guess I’ll stay away from installing Origin games on my SSD 🙂

Justin Zerbel

Lol besides that SSD’s are expensive I myself do not own one and don’t plan to. And witcher 3 is a good game but the graphics are Garbage, They were severely cut short because of Consoles, And CD Red continuously lied and said their would be no damn downgrade. I can only play maybe 20 minutes at a time. As everytime i look at the folliage i want to scream this is not next gen, Next gen is pure Grass That is Flippin green not brown

Brett Madigan

…or blurry, what about the rubber trees though 🙂 anyway. Yeah I don’t know I just didn’t see any performance improvements on my rig when they were stated in the patch notes so… no praise from me.

Brett Madigan

Performance is a little wonky as well mind you I did like the game but it too was quite riddled with plot holes and amongst other things… (my opinion)

Cilvar

Don’t really have to look all too far to find Denuvo circumvented releases. Battlefield, Dragon Age, they’ve all been “cracked” in their own way. Denuvo is just another shitty DRM that punishes customers really. After reading the stories of it’s potential involvement in burning out SSDs, I don’t touch a single thing that uses it. Obfuscation based anti-tamper is a constant process as the game is running, so it also causes a performance hit on top of all the other shitty side effects.

When are companies going to learn from other shining examples of anti-piracy? Make a game WORTH buying, and people WILL buy it. Even “some” pirates. Not all, but some surely will, because it’s worth the money. The others that don’t? Well, let’s be honest, they weren’t going to buy it anyways. Chances are, they wouldn’t even play it if they pirated it. lol Some people just like to collect crap and keep it for the sake of having it. Piracy is the most simple problem to work “with”, not ‘against’.

Ah well. Denuvo isn’t causing as big of ripples as some stories make it out to. Also, FIFA 15 184 days and counting. lol That should be classified as false advertisement on their part. That game lasted maybe 8 – 10 days before it was cracked. Comical at least.

Brett Madigan

…Battlefield Hardline, last time I checked has not been cracked because the “cracking community” doesn’t care about the game enough to even bother cracking it… now that’s saying something haha.

Also the stories about people claiming that the Denuvo DRM causes SSD’s to burn out… ehhh that’s purely false. Also there is no way of knowing what game will use Denuvo, there is no register (that I am aware of) that lets you know which game or which upcoming game will use Denuvo. Although I agree it does cause a slight performance hit, which isn’t cool at all. Denuvo is still in it’s early stages so with any luck they will reduce or remove that performance hit eventually… to little to late at this stage though.

I mentioned in another comment here that not all pirates will just pirate the game, there is no way these companies can assume that the pirates will never purchase their game. With that in mind, Australia has now introduced legislation that will block torrenting websites and potentially filesharing websites to “COMBAT PIRACY”, which is total fluff and if they truly understood the internet and how it works this idea would seem extremely stupid to them… VPN = problem solved?

As for the Fifa 15 bit yeah I agree, I mentioned that in my article haha. So yeah they are misrepresenting the DRM itself and the reality behind how successful it really is. If the pirates/crackers don’t want to crack a game like Battlefield Hardline, that says a lot about the developer and publisher as well.

E71

I’m one of those pirates who hoards a lot of pirated games simply for the sake of having them. Around ninety percent of my “collection” I haven’t even played. The ones I have, I’ve either paid for (according to how good it was) or deleted because of how much it sucked.

I had never even bothered with Mass Effect 1 until the Mass Effect 2 scene release came out. I thought, what the hell, it looks interesting, I’ll grab Mass Effect 1 then play both back-to-back. WOW. Loved it, purchased physical copies of the collector’s edition of ME2 and the unopened original of ME1, which was very hard to find considering how everyone was selling rebranded budget bin versions at the time. Pre-ordered not one but two copies of ME3 collector’s edition, bought all the comics, books (in paperback, digital and audio forms!!) and posters, patches, etc.

Now, I never would have done that if I didn’t have the opportunity to fully sample these games via pirated copies — something they think is actually harmful to their industry. I say, it’s only harmful if your game sucks and my “demo” experience of it proves it. Put it in the effort, make good games and sales will come — Witcher III and its lack of DRM proves this.

Oh, and I also grab bootleg copies of games I’ve already purchased digitally (via STEAM or ORIGIN) because it’s comforting knowing that if/when either of those services is unavailable temporarily/permanently I’ve always got instant access to a copy. I’m more of a single-player fan anyway so it’s okay.

ha ha

hahahhahhahahahahahahahahhahahahah ignorance is bliss

Kleever

Spot on, look how fast Arkham Knight was cracked, it took a month and the port being an absolute disaster probably didn’t motivate them that much either. As of now pretty much every Denuvo game has already been cracked including FiFA 15, Arkham Knight, Lords of the Fallen, Dragon Age, Battlefield Hardline etc… and yet they keep their stupid days un-cracked count on their website, blatant false advertising at this point.

Maybe if companies stopped investing in garbage like this and made quality PC ports people WILL buy that to SUPPORT them, of course not everyone will but I highly doubt Denuvo would motivate them to fork over to play day 1 anyway. PC gaming is alive and thriving, especially now that consoles are pretty much just average PC’s, developers should definitely rethink their attitude toward PC gaming.

Guest

You are incorrect with your statement about Fifa 15 (besides of most of your other claims).. Check xrel.to when a Fifa 15 crack first appeared…

Drew

Hahahah from what I have heard about Mass Effect 3 you should had “sampled” that one first. But I guess if you are a hardcore fan of the series then no matter how bad Mass Effect 3 was, it is a must buy.

Drew

hahahahahahahhahahah ^ this guy

Brett Madigan

I 100% agree, developers still to this day tease PC gamers with “this is what the game could look like”… yet on day 1 people notice that it’s nohing like what they showed. I would like a standard to be set for game events like E# and GamesCom that says you can’t show a certain quality that will never or not likely be within the final build. Then maybe devs will stop fooling us into buying their games and gain our respect again… which for some will be extremely hard to recover from.

Brett Madigan

I don’t want to agree but I see your point. I just think that some companies have their priorities around the wrong way… people will buy their game when they can afford it or if they like it.

Brett Madigan

The ending wasn’t actually that bad… as it was supposed to be the end of the trilogy. I think people were more upset by the lack of explanation or reasoning behind the fleet numbers making no difference. I personally haven’t replayed it since the new ending was added so ehh haha.

Cilvar

Don’t really have to look all too far to find Denuvo circumvented releases. Battlefield, Dragon Age, they’ve all been “cracked” in their own way. Denuvo is just another shitty DRM that punishes customers really. After reading the stories of it’s potential involvement in burning out SSDs, I don’t touch a single thing that uses it. Obfuscation based anti-tamper is a constant process as the game is running, so it also causes a performance hit on top of all the other shitty side effects.

When are companies going to learn from other shining examples of anti-piracy? Make a game WORTH buying, and people WILL buy it. Even “some” pirates. Not all, but some surely will, because it’s worth the money. The others that don’t? Well, let’s be honest, they weren’t going to buy it anyways. Chances are, they wouldn’t even play it if they pirated it. lol Some people just like to collect crap and keep it for the sake of having it. Piracy is the most simple problem to work “with”, not ‘against’.

Ah well. Denuvo isn’t causing as big of ripples as some stories make it out to. Also, FIFA 15 184 days and counting. lol That should be classified as false advertisement on their part. That game lasted maybe 8 – 10 days before it was cracked. Comical at least.

Brett Madigan

…Battlefield Hardline, last time I checked has not been cracked because the “cracking community” doesn’t care about the game enough to even bother cracking it… now that’s saying something haha.

Also the stories about people claiming that the Denuvo DRM causes SSD’s to burn out… ehhh that’s purely false. Also there is no way of knowing what game will use Denuvo, there is no register (that I am aware of) that lets you know which game or which upcoming game will use Denuvo. Although I agree it does cause a slight performance hit, which isn’t cool at all. Denuvo is still in it’s early stages so with any luck they will reduce or remove that performance hit eventually… to little to late at this stage though.

I mentioned in another comment here that not all pirates will just pirate the game, there is no way these companies can assume that the pirates will never purchase their game. With that in mind, Australia has now introduced legislation that will block torrenting websites and potentially filesharing websites to “COMBAT PIRACY”, which is total fluff and if they truly understood the internet and how it works this idea would seem extremely stupid to them… VPN = problem solved?

As for the Fifa 15 bit yeah I agree, I mentioned that in my article haha. So yeah they are misrepresenting the DRM itself and the reality behind how successful it really is. If the pirates/crackers don’t want to crack a game like Battlefield Hardline, that says a lot about the developer and publisher as well.

E71

I’m one of those pirates who hoards a lot of pirated games simply for the sake of having them. Around ninety percent of my “collection” I haven’t even played. The ones I have, I’ve either paid for (according to how good it was) or deleted because of how much it sucked.

I had never even bothered with Mass Effect 1 until the Mass Effect 2 scene release came out. I thought, what the hell, it looks interesting, I’ll grab Mass Effect 1 then play both back-to-back. WOW. Loved it, purchased physical copies of the collector’s edition of ME2 and the unopened original of ME1, which was very hard to find considering how everyone was selling rebranded budget bin versions at the time. Pre-ordered not one but two copies of ME3 collector’s edition, bought all the comics, books (in paperback, digital and audio forms!!) and posters, patches, etc.

Now, I never would have done that if I didn’t have the opportunity to fully sample these games via pirated copies — something they think is actually harmful to their industry. I say, it’s only harmful if your game sucks and my “demo” experience of it proves it. Put it in the effort, make good games and sales will come — Witcher III and its lack of DRM proves this.

Oh, and I also grab bootleg copies of games I’ve already purchased digitally (via STEAM or ORIGIN) because it’s comforting knowing that if/when either of those services is unavailable temporarily/permanently I’ve always got instant access to a copy. I’m more of a single-player fan anyway so it’s okay.

ha ha

hahahhahhahahahahahahahahhahahahah ignorance is bliss

Drew

hahahahahahahhahahah ^ this guy

Drew

Hahahah from what I have heard about Mass Effect 3 you should had “sampled” that one first. But I guess if you are a hardcore fan of the series then no matter how bad Mass Effect 3 was, it is a must buy.

Brett Madigan

The ending wasn’t actually that bad… as it was supposed to be the end of the trilogy. I think people were more upset by the lack of explanation or reasoning behind the fleet numbers making no difference. I personally haven’t replayed it since the new ending was added so ehh haha.

Brett Madigan

I don’t want to agree but I see your point. I just think that some companies have their priorities around the wrong way… people will buy their game when they can afford it or if they like it.

Kleever

Spot on, look how fast Arkham Knight was cracked, it took a month and the port being an absolute disaster probably didn’t motivate them that much either. As of now pretty much every Denuvo game has already been cracked including FiFA 15, Arkham Knight, Lords of the Fallen, Dragon Age, Battlefield Hardline etc… and yet they keep their stupid days un-cracked count on their website, blatant false advertising at this point.

Maybe if companies stopped investing in garbage like this and made quality PC ports people WILL buy that to SUPPORT them, of course not everyone will but I highly doubt Denuvo would motivate them to fork over to play day 1 anyway. PC gaming is alive and thriving, especially now that consoles are pretty much just average PC’s, developers should definitely rethink their attitude toward PC gaming.

Brett Madigan

I 100% agree, developers still to this day tease PC gamers with “this is what the game could look like”… yet on day 1 people notice that it’s nohing like what they showed. I would like a standard to be set for game events like E# and GamesCom that says you can’t show a certain quality that will never or not likely be within the final build. Then maybe devs will stop fooling us into buying their games and gain our respect again… which for some will be extremely hard to recover from.

Mr. Y

You are incorrect with your statement about Fifa 15 (besides of most of your other claims).. Check xrel.to when a Fifa 15 crack first appeared…

Jimmie M

If any it’s really taking a toll on my SSD drive right now. I’m still trying to figure out what happen after I downloaded and started playing MGSV, I’m starting to have memory errors.

getrekt

No seriously, fuck you Denuvo. I’ve bought BF4 and the Premium at launch price because i loved it when it was cracked a few days after launch.I played GTA V’s campaign, i loved it, i bought it and the multiplayer was even more amazing. I will never buy a game without trying it. People are mistaking piracy as an all bad thing.

Brett Madigan

I actually agree with you, I believe companies need to allow the player/consumer to have the option to try before they buy, Origin (not that many people like it) actually does this with a hand full of games under the “Game Time” program they host, although this is a great idea in theory Origin only allows this for older games and currently only 3 at a time. So personally in order to counter piracy these publishers should be allowing players the opportunity to play the game for maybe 30mins-1hr before they buy it or at the very least bring back demo’s.

I will leave you with one notion though, there is no way that any of these companies can truly say that all pirates will never buy their game. There will be a small portion that don’t true, though not every single one of them has the same idea.

getrekt

No seriously, fuck you Denuvo. I’ve bought BF4 and the Premium at launch price because i loved it when it was cracked a few days after launch.I played GTA V’s campaign, i loved it, i bought it and the multiplayer was even more amazing. I will never buy a game without trying it. People are mistaking piracy as an all bad thing.

Brett Madigan

I actually agree with you, I believe companies need to allow the player/consumer to have the option to try before they buy, Origin (not that many people like it) actually does this with a hand full of games under the “Game Time” program they host, although this is a great idea in theory Origin only allows this for older games and currently only 3 at a time. So personally in order to counter piracy these publishers should be allowing players the opportunity to play the game for maybe 30mins-1hr before they buy it or at the very least bring back demo’s.

I will leave you with one notion though, there is no way that any of these companies can truly say that all pirates will never buy their game. There will be a small portion that don’t true, though not every single one of them has the same idea.

MClement

I will not pay 80$ for 6-8 hours of gaming… At least a single player edition under 20$ i can be willing to pay if the game is intended for my PC and edited like it not a we-don’t-give-a-shit console to pc conversion… And finally I won’t pay for a game that is basically a copy of the plot/style of another game (common EA some scriptwritter would be appreciated for the Battlefield franchise, maybe something like Bad Company 2)

Brett Madigan

I understand, I felt the same way. I didn’t want to buy the game for $80-120 AUD then + premium… nah. If premium was more of a in game reward and not a paid for attribute to the game, ie the skipping the queue for Premium members basically is a paid for feature but doesn’t work as effectively if everyone owns premium.

As for plot and campaign, I don’t know anyone that would rather the campaign over MP but I see your point if you don’t particularly like the MP and you are given a 6-8hr campaign which is virtually not worth the asking price.

ha ha

There should be differently priced versions of both singleplaer and multiplayer

MClement

I will not pay 80$ for 6-8 hours of gaming… At least a single player edition under 20$ i can be willing to pay if the game is intended for my PC and edited like it not a we-don’t-give-a-shit console to pc conversion… And finally I won’t pay for a game that is basically a copy of the plot/style of another game (common EA some scriptwritter would be appreciated for the Battlefield franchise, maybe something like Bad Company 2)

Brett Madigan

I understand, I felt the same way. I didn’t want to buy the game for $80-120 AUD then + premium… nah. If premium was more of a in game reward and not a paid for attribute to the game, ie the skipping the queue for Premium members basically is a paid for feature but doesn’t work as effectively if everyone owns premium.

As for plot and campaign, I don’t know anyone that would rather the campaign over MP but I see your point if you don’t particularly like the MP and you are given a 6-8hr campaign which is virtually not worth the asking price.

ha ha

There should be differently priced versions of both singleplaer and multiplayer

Dimitrio Duca

I think that since a large section of players prefer to try the game before actually buying it I think that all Denuvo is doing is discouraging people from purchasing the game; hence less profits for its clients

Brett Madigan

Maybe, I don’t want to admit to anything but I see where it could be a problem for potential buyers yeah.

Dimitrio Duca

I think that since a large section of players prefer to try the game before actually buying it I think that all Denuvo is doing is discouraging people from purchasing the game; hence less profits for its clients

Brett Madigan

Maybe, I don’t want to admit to anything but I see where it could be a problem for potential buyers yeah.

Brett Madigan

Do not link fake/or crack websites please.

Brett Madigan

Do not link fake/or crack websites please.

Goga Montana

Nope, Denuvo is broken. It just needs more time to burgle, but it isn’t bulletproof :-))

Brett Madigan

I would rather no DRM and the game to be a single executable file that isn’t .exe or something. The number of DRM’s that are out there has become crazy.

Goga Montana

Nope, Denuvo is broken. It just needs more time to burgle, but it isn’t bulletproof :-))

Brett Madigan

I would rather no DRM and the game to be a single executable file that isn’t .exe or something. The number of DRM’s that are out there has become crazy.

Guest

After what happend to DA:I, i think DENUVO has increased their security for tampering the games…..its good for EA but bad for pirates….although this time i think there will be no more cracks for any games if all the gaming companies goes to DENUVO for protecting their games from getting tampered.

Brett Madigan

I do believe DA:I was cracked… sooo can’t be that great.

Justin Zerbel

It was cracked But Denuvo still isn’t cracked. Somehow they bypassed something in Denuvo but wasn’t really cracked. As lords of the fallen, Hardline and Arkham Knight all have Denuvo and not one of them has been cracked

Brett Madigan

Lords of the Fallen was cracked on the 29th of October 2014…

Guest

As i came to know reviewing most of the sites. i gotta say that may be in December we will see a proper crack by CPY. i hope so.

Brett Madigan

It already was though…

Brett Madigan

I’d still call it “cracked” if the user can play the game… also the rest of the games you mentioned have been cracked now… I think this proves that not even Denuvo is unstoppable. If one of these people have the intention to play it at some point they will find a way around the encryption or whatever ends up stopping pirates. It just comes down to… when.

Justin Zerbel

Yes they recently Cracked Hardline, Arkham Knight, Lords of the fallen, Denuvo is Gone lol.

Brett Madigan

Pretty much haha… it was good whilst it lasted 🙂

Brett Madigan

I think all Denuvo games have been cracked…

RXWell

After what happend to DA:I, i think DENUVO has increased their security for tampering the games…..its good for EA but bad for pirates….although this time i think there will be no more cracks for any games if all the gaming companies goes to DENUVO for protecting their games from getting tampered.

Brett Madigan

I do believe DA:I was cracked… sooo can’t be that great.

Justin Zerbel

It was cracked But Denuvo still isn’t cracked. Somehow they bypassed something in Denuvo but wasn’t really cracked. As lords of the fallen, Hardline and Arkham Knight all have Denuvo and not one of them has been cracked

Brett Madigan

Lords of the Fallen was cracked on the 29th of October 2014…

Rxwell

As i came to know reviewing most of the sites. i gotta say that may be in December we will see a proper crack by CPY. i hope so.